Not obscure nit-picking
Thank you for publishing a review of my pamphlet entitled Time to Get Rid of Money (as are the Old Moles Collective as a whole for the various reviews of our books that you have published).
However I do find it sad that the SPGB needs to criticise in such a petty way. Why cannot you engage in a serious discussion? After all, as the review seems to grudgingly accept, we do both believe that class society and a society based on money must be eliminated. One would think this would be a basis for a more in depth review and some serious analysis and discussion of a complex money system and the way it works eg, its impact on the poor under capitalism, the wealth pyramid, the anarchy of the market, the increase of working class debt and debt generally, let alone the fact that money is purely electronic and that today gold is not used to backup currency.
But no, ALB ignores all these issues to perpetuate a traditional weakness of discussion by the leading figures of the SPGB in favour of the need to score cheap jibes through a mixture of false representation of ideas and a lack of effort. I don’t pretend to have expert, detailed workings of today’s complex financial systems at my fingertips but at least I am trying to explain the essentials and engage in discussion about what it really is. The Old Moles know that we will not convince everybody instantaneously of the absolute correctness of our political positions, so discussion is what we primarily aim to develop with our books.
First of all let us take note of some brief but important facts:
The level of world debt in 2024 is approx $300 trillion yet the level of world GDP for 2023 only equals approx $100 trillion dollars. The total value of gold in mines to 2024 is much less than this and equals only $18.07 trillion (212,582 tonnes of gold have been mined to date at a market price of $85 per gram at end of 2024).
For the UK the economy’s net worth is about £11 trillion (2020) and the level of UK GDP equals £2.5 trillion (2022). Nevertheless, the level of debt in the UK is approximately £5 trillion (2024) and, according to the Bank of England, the level of bank deposits in the UK come to £1.5 trillion (2023). However the amount of actual sterling available comes to only £94b (2022)
Did ALB make any real effort to understand such figures? They are easy enough to find and check online and clearly show that the money in circulation is much less than deposits in the banks and especially of the value of debt that exists. Furthermore, bank reserves are restricted to a small proportion of the deposits held by banks. Where then is the real money that ALB has so much trust in? ALB’s faith in the capitalist banking system is touching but that is what the financial system depends on ie faith and it is sadly misplaced in a socialist.
ALB blithely dismisses the evidence from the Bank of England and the former head of the US Federal Reserve and tries to devise his own better explanation of loans that use reserves and bank deposits, but fails to realise that only 4 percent of deposits is kept as cash by bank, the remaining deposits and reserves are entirely electronic!
Yes, the idea of creating currency ‘out of thin air’ is hyperbole and yes the banks need to make a profit on this activity which may well limit the amount they can create at any given time, but this electronic money is created by computer and cash is printed to maintain this system. This is the money system in today’s capitalist economy.
In every economy, the level of currency is only sufficient to facilitate the circulation of commodities so it does not cover total deposits let alone total GDP and the deposits and reserves held by banks. Moreover there is the fact that the valuation of a currency can change and even collapse — as recently in Argentina.
Any rational interpretation of this situation can only say the money is not worth actually anything. It is backed only by other coins and notes or by electronic records. All currency physical and electronic is only valuable and only works because the state backs it with promises and relies on the population keeping its faith in the money system — and ALB, I’m afraid, does his bit to support that system.
Debt is not the main problem, capitalism and its shit financial system is and perhaps SPGB needs to investigate and discuss how capitalism really works instead of scoring debating points.
Phil Sutton
Reply:
It was the title of your pamphlet and your political background that led us to read and review it. We had expected ‘some serious analysis and discussion of a complex money system’ from a Marxian point of view but were disappointed to find that it endorsed a mistaken theory of the nature of banking that we had been combating for years, viz., that banks can create money ‘by a stroke of the pen’ (as it was put in the 1920s) and generate an income for themselves from the interest they charge for lending it — ‘an electronic data entry costs virtually nothing but earns interest for the bank!’, as you put it.
If this was the case, a bank would be a very special capitalist enterprise, one that could create a part of its capital out of thin air and obtain a profit from it. Every capitalist would want to be a banker. Actually, a bank’s business model is to borrow money at one rate of interest, whether from savers or the money market, and to re-lend it at a higher rate. This ‘spread’ is the source of its income; what is left after paying its costs in terms of buildings, computers and staff is its profit.
You claimed the authority of an article in a Bank of England publication for your view. Nearly one third of our review was taken up with an extensive quote from the article in question which showed that it did not support your view. What you call our ‘own better explanation of loans that use reserves and bank deposits’ was in fact that of the Bank of England article. You now concede their point that the need to make a profit ‘may well’ limit the amount of money banks can lend at any one time. But ‘may well’ is too weak; a bank will stop lending at the point where it costs it more in interest to cover its loans than the rate it could charge borrowers.
You also concede that to say that banks can create money out of thin air is ‘hyperbole’. If banks really did have that power then the labour theory of value would be invalid.
Value is only created in production by workers exercising their physical and mental energies to transform materials that originally came from nature into goods and services for sale. Initially it is divided into wages and surplus value, generating purchasing power. Money measures and circulates value. Originally money was a product of labour with its own value. The precious metals ceased to function as cash ages ago and, since 1971 when the US cut the link between the dollar and a fixed amount of gold, ceased to be the general standard of value as well (even if they remain with other things a store of value). Nowadays what is popularly called ‘money’ are tokens for it, electronic as well the more traditional pieces of coloured paper and metal disks, all of which are, as you point out, intrinsically worthless.
Money has various functions and you are confusing money as a means of payment with money as a unit of account. The fact that GDP (what is produced in a year) is expressed in units of money does not mean that an equivalent amount of money is required to buy it. Money circulates, ie, can be used in any number of transactions. Similarly, it is not a problem in itself that total debt (what businesses, governments and people owe each other), expressed in units of money, is greater than GDP, if only because the same sum of money can be used to make and settle more than one debt. Again, there is no need for a bank to hold the full cash equivalent of what it lends. That would undermine the whole idea of banking which is based on the assumption that those who have lent it money will only want to withdraw an average amount of it at any one time (4 percent seems to be the current norm in Britain), meaning that the rest can safely be loaned out. Thus, the total amount a bank lends is greater than the amount it needs to hold as cash, even if it can’t be greater than the amount the bank originally borrowed or borrows.
Fundamentally, the main point at issue here is not just some academic disagreement about how banks work, but that this has important political implications. It’s not obscure nit-picking. Those who believe that banks have the power to create money by a keystroke (formerly stroke of the pen) advocate that this supposed power should be taken from banks and used by some public body either to finance better social amenities or to pay everyone a ‘social dividend’. It is the theory behind a specious form of reformism. Socialists need to be able to refute it as part of our case that capitalism cannot be reformed to work in the interest of the majority. How can we do this convincingly if we share the same mistaken premise as them?
Editors.